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简述：2022年10月1日，维克宣布停止对老牌枪械模组“维克的现代战争”的开发并开源，本帖将记录并持续追踪此事。
以下内容均来自维克的Discord和MC百科。
根据MC百科编辑习惯，将“维克的现代战争”模组简写为“VMW”，将VMW作者"vic4gamesteam"简写为“维克”。
所以。
几个月后（可能是今年年底，2022 年。换句话说，2022 年 12 月 31 日），我们将停止在 VMW 上工作。
我们将在那个时候停止对 Mod 和与之相关的任何内容的开发。这意味着在 12 月 31 日之后，我们不会：
- 继续添加功能或枪支
- 继续修复错误或其他问题
- 继续制作服务器（如果那时我们有服务器，我们不会维护它们）
原因很简单。
吉姆和我都想继续我们生活中的其他事情。至于我自己，我已经在 Mod 上工作了 8-9 年，我现在非常疲惫。我几乎无法激励自己从事一个我没有什么激情的项目。正因为如此，我也无法改造每把枪，或者将每把枪从VMW 1.0退回到最终版本中。所以我基本上只想在我的生活中做其他事情。要处理的新项目。
至于吉姆，他有生活。他现在在上大学，他的生活中还有其他抱负，我不能要求他从事一个他没有什么激情的项目（像我一样），当他上大学时，还有他未来的一生。
当我们停止在VMW上工作时，我们将使其开源。是的，我说了。我们将使模组开源。这意味着从字面上看，任何人都可以查看代码并在我们的位置继续使用 mod。但是，我可能会对开发 Mod 的人附加一些条件（如果有人这样做的话）。我们无法控制谁拿起这个模组以及他们用它做什么，但真诚地，我们希望开发人员遵循他们，否则“去我妈的”（是的，真的）。以下是我将为开源设置的可能条件。
如果你想开发模组：
1）将原始荣誉归功于Vic4Games，Vic4GamesTeam和Jim Holden。
2）保留附件系统和工作台系统的UI设计，但欢迎改进。
我知道很多人无论如何都会问，所以我再重复一遍：
VMW将开源。它没有“死亡”，但我们将停止工作。
我可能会在稍后发布另一个公告，详细介绍有关开源内容的更多信息。
在我们停止在VMW上工作之前，我们将获得一个更新，该更新实际上将使VMW100%可玩。这意味着许多错误将得到修复，优化将得到改进，大多数枪支、附件、弹匣和子弹都是可制作的（未经改造的枪支将无法制作，但是有一个配置可以允许你们添加合成配方）。如果在我们完成时没有添加这些内容中的任何一个，我们将不会延长开发时间。相反，我们会将其添加到“我们希望未来开发人员添加的内容列表中”。
我们想要添加到 VMW 中的许多内容最终都不会添加。例如，直升机、坦克、更多生物、地牢等。然而，看到吉姆和我对整件事的立场，我们决定无论如何都要停下来。未来的开发人员将添加我们无法添加的内容。
谢谢你们的阅读。吉姆和我会回答问题。
[email protected] exactly sure how to phrase this the "right way" but it's something that needs to be said.
So.
In a couple months (probably the end of this year, 2022. In other words, December 31st, 2022), we will stop working on VMW.
We're going to stop development on the mod and anything related to it at around that time. This means after December 31st, we're not going to:
- continue adding features or guns
- continue fixing bugs or other issues
- continue making servers (and if we have servers by that time, we're not going to maintain them)
The reasons are pretty simple.
Jim and I both want to move on to other things in our lives. As for myself, I've already worked on the mod for 8-9 years, and I'm extremely exhausted from it now. I can barely motivate myself to work on a project that I have little passion for. Because of this, I also won't be able to revamp every single gun, or return every gun from VMW 1.0 into the final version. So I basically just want to do other things in my life. New projects to work on.
As for Jim, he has a life. He's at college now, and he has other ambitions in his life., I can't ask him to work on a project that he has little passion for (like me) and when he has college, and a whole life ahead of him.
When we stop working on VMW, we will make it open source. Yes, I said it. We will make the mod open source. This means that literally anybody will be able to look at the code and continue the mod in our place. However, there are probably some conditions I'll attach to whoever develops the mod (if anybody does it). We can't control who picks up the mod and what they do with it, but in good faith, we expect developers to follow them, otherwise "** you" (yes, really). Here are the likely conditions I'll set for open source.
If you want to develop the mod:
1) Give original credit to Vic4Games, Vic4GamesTeam, and Jim Holden
2) Keep the UI designs for the attachment system and the workbench system, however, improvements are welcome.
I know a lot of people will ask anyway, so I'll repeat again:
VMW will go open source.
It's not "dying" but we will stop working on it.
I will probably make another announcement later on detailing more about the open source stuff.
Before we stop working on VMW, we will get an update out that will virtually make VMW 100% playable. This means that a lot of bugs will be fixed, optimization will be improved, most guns, attachment, magazine, and bullet will be craftable (the unrevamped guns will be uncraftable, however there's a config that will allow you guys to add recipes). If any of these things aren't added by the time we're done, we will not extend development time. We will instead add it to a "list of things we wish for future developers to add."A lot of things we've wanted to add to VMW will end up not being added. For example, helis, tanks, more mobs, dungeons, etc.. However, seeing Jim and I's standpoint on the whole thing, we've decided that we will stop anyway. It'll be up to future developers to add what we couldn't.
Thank you guys for reading. Jim and I will take questions in general.
嘿，patreon订阅者们，
这件事情非常不好开口，对你们这些捐款支持模组和服务器的订阅者们更是难以启齿。经过一番深思熟虑和讨论之后，Jim和我将取消Contagion（得说清楚，我们取消的不是维克的现代战争模组）。
除开所有技术原因，和包括地图搭建、开发等等的环境原因，Contagion的取消主要是我们的个人因素导致的。眼下，服务器的设立已经有了一套完整的计划，然而，我和Jim都难以承担发布和管理服务器的责任和后续事项。服一旦开了，我们就得发布它，维护它，任重而道远，不是地狱胜似地狱，也并不是我和Jim能扛得住的。举个例子，Jim生活里还有其他事情要做，像是大学的学业，还有其他一些需要投身的项目，Contagion本质上就像是一个长期合同，成为Jim的绊脚石。对我来讲，Contagion会拖长我在Minecraft模组上的开发时间，出于个人因素，我并不想接受这种情况。
与其在两个项目上兼职打两份工，我会专注于VMW这样一个我们两人能够真正忠于的项目，并保证精益求精。此外，因为Contagion已经取消，Jim和我正在考虑开一个小私服，譬如多人生存服，或者某种团队死斗的活动服等等。
我们清楚，这项决定非同小可，会带来的消极的冲击和影响，因而Jim和我已经准备好在VIP聊天频道里和所有Patreon订阅者们开展交流。如果你想和我们就细节详情进行谈论，请不要压抑。我们明白，这件事情对一些人来说可能是一盆凉水，我们在此抱以诚挚的歉意。此番**可言。
Hey patrons,
This is something that’s hard to talk about, especially with you guys—our patrons, who support us by donating to us for the mod and server. After thinking and talking about it for a long time, Jim and I will be cancelling contagion① (just to be clear, we WILL continue work on vmw).
Asides from all the technical and circumstantial reasons (including map building, development, etc.) our reasons for cancelling contagion are personal. As of right now we’ve had an assembled plan for making the server, however—the implications and responsibilities for releasing and managing the server all things neither Jim nor I want to deal with. If we make the server, we also have to release it and maintain it—which is a whole journey, a special kind of hell in of itself, that is just too much for both Jim and I. For example, Jim has other things he needs to tend to in his life, including University and other ventures he wants to get into; and contagion is essentially a long term contract that holds him back. As for me, contagion would extend my development time regarding the Minecraft modding scene, which is something I want to avoid for personal reasons.
Instead of working part time on 2 projects, contagion and vmw, we’ll focus purely on vmw instead—a project Jim and I can actually commit to—and finish it to be the best it can be (which is something we can confidently achieve). Furthermore, in light of contagion being cancelled, Jim and I also thought of potentially releasing small servers—for example, an SMP server, or some kind of tdm event server, etc..
We know this is a big decision that has negative impacts and implications, so Jim and I are ready to hold conversations with all the patrons in the VIP chats—#Vip chat. If you want to talk about all of this with us in further detail, please free. We know this news probably disappoints a number of you, and for that we deeply apologize. We don’t have any excuses.
简述：2022年10月1日，维克宣布停止对老牌枪械模组“维克的现代战争”的开发并开源，本帖将记录并持续追踪此事。
以下内容均来自维克的Discord和MC百科。
根据MC百科编辑习惯，将“维克的现代战争”模组简写为“VMW”，将VMW作者"vic4gamesteam"简写为“维克”。
2023年2月22日[Paneedah (im not Vic)]
With that being said, are there any Java devs who want to continue VMW with me on my fork? I wouldn't like to see VMW itself die, so continuing it is a group effort!
Please contact me privately in DMs or let me know in general
I'll be more than happy to let anyone and everyone contribute as well! So feel free to submit a PR if you do want to contribute!
2023年2月22日13:58（Vic4Games）
@everyone
I'm sorry to be sudden about this, but it's been a long while coming anyway, so it's not completely out of the blue:
I will officially be removing myself from VMW starting today. I (me, Vic4Games, just me) won't be working on the mod anymore.
Ideally I wouldn't like to leave when the mod still needs to be polished and finished, but because of some circumstances, I don't have the power to fix or finish VMW. Because of this, I'm hoping that when the source code is public, someone else will pick it up and finish our work. This means that the mod, in its current state, still has a lot of issues, and that it needs to be improved. Asides from bugs and any potential crashes, half of the guns are still using outdated legacy systems (the lower quality animated guns, etc.); some features don't work properly; the internal systems have problems, etc..
For those of you who wanted to make content in VMW--for now I would recommend using an alternate mod. In its current state, VMW needs fixes to its internal systems first before content can be made for it. Of course, for that to happen, someone else will need to pick up the mod's development full-time.
I've made the source code of VMW public with my Dad yesterday. That means right now, anybody can go there and fork it. There's a license associated with it, so if you want to make your own version of the mod, make sure to adhere to the license. But in a rundown, what you need to know is that if you want to make your own fork of the VMW, you need to give original credits to us. There are two repositories: modern warfare (the mod itself with all its content), and weaponlib (the coremod). They'll be linked in mod-download.
I was originally going to release another update before leaving, but because of the "circumstances" I briefly mentioned, the mod isn't in a good state for a release. However, I will be releasing a version on curseforge; and the source code does have the latest of the latest code.
I will also release VMW's old, new, and unused assets soon; it'll take time because there are hundreds of files to organize and compile.
I will not be making tutorials for how to work with VMW; however I may release a document we've been using for how to use some of the code in the mod (to create guns, etc.).
All of that pretty much sums up this announcement. Thank you for the support throughout the years. Frankly, I believe I barely deserve it, but it's much appreciated, and it went a long way. I wouldn't have gotten to this point without this community.
With all that said, that'll officially end my development role in VMW. I may or may not stay (if I stay, it'll be to advertise my manga/webtoon, assuming I go through with that). I'll still be around, generally. You'll find me on my YouTube channel where I'll be posting some videos occasionally. You can also find me on my Twitter: https://twitter.com/Vic4Games where I've been posting some of my art--and where I'll also be posting art for my manga. In case anybody is curious--the manga is military-genre. Might interest some people.
This is a good time to answer questions, so I'll be taking questions in general . Otherwise, Ad Astra.
2023年2月4日
常见问题解答（随时间推移而更新）：
1）是的，我们将去更新CurseForge上的文件资源。以后。
2）是的，匍匐动作已被移除。其不会回归；我们不在单独的版本更新它；不为它设置配置文件选项。它已永远被删除。如此做的原因是提高VMW和其他mod的兼容性。
Common questions answered (may edit as time goes on):
1) Yes, we are going to update curseforge. Later.
2) Yes, proning was removed. We are not adding it back; we are not adding it in a separate version; we are not adding a config option for it. It is gone permanently. The reason why is to improve overall mod compatibility between VMW and other mods.
2023年1月2日
Hi everyone.
This isn't going to be worth pinging everyone for, so the number of people seeing this will be limited--nonetheless, what I'm about to say needs to be out there.
First of all, thank you for the support on VMW for all these years. Without this community, I wouldn't be where I am now, I wouldn't have developed the skillset I have, the mod wouldn't have gotten here.
The fact that you're all eagerly awaiting the update is simple proof to me that my work was worth doing--that my Dad's work was worth doing, and that Jim's work was worth doing... everyone on the asset design team, I could go on.
So when people ask for the update, especially on the day that I estimated we'd get an update out, it's perfectly reasonable to ask why the update isn't here. The fact that you want the mod is my pride, our work is valued.
But with all that said, I have to remind everyone again:
We're stopping development on the mod. The update will come (and we will not turn around and say it won't come), but the fact that we will stop development after we release the update shows that we don't have interest in continuing the mod anymore. The mod wasn't ever my entire life or my existence, but it's especially now that it's not my entire life, because I have other things to focus on and move on to.
I mention all of that because I want to make it clear that I'm not obligated to work on the mod 24/7, and neither is Jim. Because of that, the pace we work at is slower. I'm less interested in the mod, so I'm less interested in developing it--this means the update might release slower.
The update isn't available right now because right now I'm not interested in testing the new version that Jim's sent me; maybe in 2 hours I'll do it, maybe tomorrow.
[13:17]
So again, I appreciate the support on the mod, and the fact that people are asking for the update means that my work is valued; but I can't stress this enough: being upset that it's been a year since a curseforge version was released; or half a year since 3.0 was released--won't make the version come faster. Instead, you'll just irritate the staff, and the developers, and me. I may not have said this in my initial reasons for quitting the mod--but the drama that revolves in the minecraft community, the treatment of developers as work machines, that general attitude--those are some of the things I think about a lot when I think about why I've quit VMW. I understand that not everyone is like that, and I've received tons of support from positive people--I value that a lot--but that element doesn't change, hide, or remove the other ugliness that comes with developing a mod, or even a video-game. So I ask that people please be respectful.
VMW 3.0^2 will come soon.
Thank you for reading and understanding.
2022年12月30日
Mod版本明天（2022年12月31日，维克宣布停更的日子——译者按）（可能）不会发布；有些东西已经坏了。当然，如果测试顺利，我将尽快发布。
另外，更新后可能会有补丁更新。
Mod version will (likely) not release tomorrow; some stuff is broken. Of course, if tests go well, I'll release soon as I can.
Also, there will likely be patch updates after the update.
2022年12月6日
宣布我之前谈到的内容的视频（VMW停更开源）+工作台录像（生存模式中的VMW）。
VMW停更并开源以及枪械工作台录像
Video announcing what I talked about before (with ending VMW and going open source)+ Workbench footage (VMW in survivall)
Quitting VMw Il Open Source ll Workbench footage
2022年10月1日
嘿，@所有人不确定如何以“正确的方式”表达这一点，但这是需要说的。所以。
几个月后（可能是今年年底，2022 年。换句话说，2022 年 12 月 31 日），我们将停止在 VMW 上工作。
我们将在那个时候停止对 Mod 和与之相关的任何内容的开发。这意味着在 12 月 31 日之后，我们不会：
- 继续添加功能或枪支
- 继续修复错误或其他问题
- 继续制作服务器（如果那时我们有服务器，我们不会维护它们）
原因很简单。
吉姆和我都想继续我们生活中的其他事情。至于我自己，我已经在 Mod 上工作了 8-9 年，我现在非常疲惫。我几乎无法激励自己从事一个我没有什么激情的项目。正因为如此，我也无法改造每把枪，或者将每把枪从VMW 1.0退回到最终版本中。所以我基本上只想在我的生活中做其他事情。要处理的新项目。
至于吉姆，他有生活。他现在在上大学，他的生活中还有其他抱负，我不能要求他从事一个他没有什么激情的项目（像我一样），当他上大学时，还有他未来的一生。
当我们停止在VMW上工作时，我们将使其开源。是的，我说了。我们将使模组开源。这意味着从字面上看，任何人都可以查看代码并在我们的位置继续使用 mod。但是，我可能会对开发 Mod 的人附加一些条件（如果有人这样做的话）。我们无法控制谁拿起这个模组以及他们用它做什么，但真诚地，我们希望开发人员遵循他们，否则“去我妈的”（是的，真的）。以下是我将为开源设置的可能条件。
如果你想开发模组：
1）将原始荣誉归功于Vic4Games，Vic4GamesTeam和Jim Holden。
2）保留附件系统和工作台系统的UI设计，但欢迎改进。
我知道很多人无论如何都会问，所以我再重复一遍：
VMW将开源。它没有“死亡”，但我们将停止工作。
我可能会在稍后发布另一个公告，详细介绍有关开源内容的更多信息。
在我们停止在VMW上工作之前，我们将获得一个更新，该更新实际上将使VMW100%可玩。这意味着许多错误将得到修复，优化将得到改进，大多数枪支、附件、弹匣和子弹都是可制作的（未经改造的枪支将无法制作，但是有一个配置可以允许你们添加合成配方）。如果在我们完成时没有添加这些内容中的任何一个，我们将不会延长开发时间。相反，我们会将其添加到“我们希望未来开发人员添加的内容列表中”。
我们想要添加到 VMW 中的许多内容最终都不会添加。例如，直升机、坦克、更多生物、地牢等。然而，看到吉姆和我对整件事的立场，我们决定无论如何都要停下来。未来的开发人员将添加我们无法添加的内容。
谢谢你们的阅读。吉姆和我会回答问题。
[email protected] exactly sure how to phrase this the "right way" but it's something that needs to be said.
So.
In a couple months (probably the end of this year, 2022. In other words, December 31st, 2022), we will stop working on VMW.
We're going to stop development on the mod and anything related to it at around that time. This means after December 31st, we're not going to:
- continue adding features or guns
- continue fixing bugs or other issues
- continue making servers (and if we have servers by that time, we're not going to maintain them)
The reasons are pretty simple.
Jim and I both want to move on to other things in our lives. As for myself, I've already worked on the mod for 8-9 years, and I'm extremely exhausted from it now. I can barely motivate myself to work on a project that I have little passion for. Because of this, I also won't be able to revamp every single gun, or return every gun from VMW 1.0 into the final version. So I basically just want to do other things in my life. New projects to work on.
As for Jim, he has a life. He's at college now, and he has other ambitions in his life., I can't ask him to work on a project that he has little passion for (like me) and when he has college, and a whole life ahead of him.
When we stop working on VMW, we will make it open source. Yes, I said it. We will make the mod open source. This means that literally anybody will be able to look at the code and continue the mod in our place. However, there are probably some conditions I'll attach to whoever develops the mod (if anybody does it). We can't control who picks up the mod and what they do with it, but in good faith, we expect developers to follow them, otherwise "** you" (yes, really). Here are the likely conditions I'll set for open source.
If you want to develop the mod:
1) Give original credit to Vic4Games, Vic4GamesTeam, and Jim Holden
2) Keep the UI designs for the attachment system and the workbench system, however, improvements are welcome.
I know a lot of people will ask anyway, so I'll repeat again:
VMW will go open source.
It's not "dying" but we will stop working on it.
I will probably make another announcement later on detailing more about the open source stuff.
Before we stop working on VMW, we will get an update out that will virtually make VMW 100% playable. This means that a lot of bugs will be fixed, optimization will be improved, most guns, attachment, magazine, and bullet will be craftable (the unrevamped guns will be uncraftable, however there's a config that will allow you guys to add recipes). If any of these things aren't added by the time we're done, we will not extend development time. We will instead add it to a "list of things we wish for future developers to add."A lot of things we've wanted to add to VMW will end up not being added. For example, helis, tanks, more mobs, dungeons, etc.. However, seeing Jim and I's standpoint on the whole thing, we've decided that we will stop anyway. It'll be up to future developers to add what we couldn't.
Thank you guys for reading. Jim and I will take questions in general.
2022年6月7日
嘿，patreon订阅者们，
这件事情非常不好开口，对你们这些捐款支持模组和服务器的订阅者们更是难以启齿。经过一番深思熟虑和讨论之后，Jim和我将取消Contagion（得说清楚，我们取消的不是维克的现代战争模组）。
除开所有技术原因，和包括地图搭建、开发等等的环境原因，Contagion的取消主要是我们的个人因素导致的。眼下，服务器的设立已经有了一套完整的计划，然而，我和Jim都难以承担发布和管理服务器的责任和后续事项。服一旦开了，我们就得发布它，维护它，任重而道远，不是地狱胜似地狱，也并不是我和Jim能扛得住的。举个例子，Jim生活里还有其他事情要做，像是大学的学业，还有其他一些需要投身的项目，Contagion本质上就像是一个长期合同，成为Jim的绊脚石。对我来讲，Contagion会拖长我在Minecraft模组上的开发时间，出于个人因素，我并不想接受这种情况。
与其在两个项目上兼职打两份工，我会专注于VMW这样一个我们两人能够真正忠于的项目，并保证精益求精。此外，因为Contagion已经取消，Jim和我正在考虑开一个小私服，譬如多人生存服，或者某种团队死斗的活动服等等。
我们清楚，这项决定非同小可，会带来的消极的冲击和影响，因而Jim和我已经准备好在VIP聊天频道里和所有Patreon订阅者们开展交流。如果你想和我们就细节详情进行谈论，请不要压抑。我们明白，这件事情对一些人来说可能是一盆凉水，我们在此抱以诚挚的歉意。此番**可言。
Hey patrons,
This is something that’s hard to talk about, especially with you guys—our patrons, who support us by donating to us for the mod and server. After thinking and talking about it for a long time, Jim and I will be cancelling contagion① (just to be clear, we WILL continue work on vmw).
Asides from all the technical and circumstantial reasons (including map building, development, etc.) our reasons for cancelling contagion are personal. As of right now we’ve had an assembled plan for making the server, however—the implications and responsibilities for releasing and managing the server all things neither Jim nor I want to deal with. If we make the server, we also have to release it and maintain it—which is a whole journey, a special kind of hell in of itself, that is just too much for both Jim and I. For example, Jim has other things he needs to tend to in his life, including University and other ventures he wants to get into; and contagion is essentially a long term contract that holds him back. As for me, contagion would extend my development time regarding the Minecraft modding scene, which is something I want to avoid for personal reasons.
Instead of working part time on 2 projects, contagion and vmw, we’ll focus purely on vmw instead—a project Jim and I can actually commit to—and finish it to be the best it can be (which is something we can confidently achieve). Furthermore, in light of contagion being cancelled, Jim and I also thought of potentially releasing small servers—for example, an SMP server, or some kind of tdm event server, etc..
We know this is a big decision that has negative impacts and implications, so Jim and I are ready to hold conversations with all the patrons in the VIP chats—#Vip chat. If you want to talk about all of this with us in further detail, please free. We know this news probably disappoints a number of you, and for that we deeply apologize. We don’t have any excuses.
本帖最后由 绒毛☆茸爪 于 2023-1-26 19:48 编辑
“但是有一个配置可以允许你们添加食谱”
（这里应该把食谱改为合成表）
“但是有一个配置可以允许你们添加食谱”
（这里应该把食谱改为合成表）